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Transmission

Postby The Foot Locker » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:30 am

Maybe I missed something obvious in one of the videos or literature. What kind of transmission does the Elio have? Does it have a stick shift on the right side of the car like the Corbin Motors Roadster? What company made the transmission?
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Re: Transmission

Postby ElioJay » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:56 am

Right now we do not know the transmission manufacturer. At this point in time no transmission supplier is listed on the Elio "suppliers" page: https://www.eliomotors.com/suppliers/ It has been mentioned that it will be off the shelf, but it has also been said it will be Elio specific.... so we do not know :-) What is known is the shifter will be on the right side of the car for the manual. We do not know if the auto will be a true auto, or an "automatically shifting" manual (Think Can-Am Spyder). Elio has stated that the plan is to have the manual transmission as standard equipment, and the automatic an option. They have also said they are trying to keep the option pricing for the automatic as low as possible.

The mule being shown has a Geo Metro engine and transmission in it.
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Re: Transmission

Postby The Foot Locker » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:17 pm

Ah, I see. If the transmission is common enough the car can be converted for relatively cheap :)
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Re: Transmission

Postby dtpetty » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:06 pm

The Foot Locker wrote: Does it have a stick shift on the right side of the car like the Corbin Motors Roadster?


Aren't they always on the right? Except in Great Britain/Ireland/Aust etc ? ;)
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Re: Transmission

Postby dtpetty » Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:36 pm

ElioJay wrote:We do not know if the auto will be a true auto, or an "automatically shifting" manual (Think Can-Am Spyder). Elio has stated that the plan is to have the manual transmission as standard equipment, and the automatic an option. They have also said they are trying to keep the option pricing for the automatic as low as possible.


Talked to VP sales today. The automatic will definitely not be a true automatic with torque converter etc. Way too much weight and cost. They still would like to see the auto shifter as a $0 option. Remains to be seen. For sure, younger drivers "expect" a car to be automatic. Many have never driven anything else. Less than 20% of current models even offer sticks. So the point is even in "cheap" cars, most buyers don't expect to pay extra to lose the clutch.
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Re: Transmission

Postby rogwild » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:02 am

dtpetty wrote:
ElioJay wrote:We do not know if the auto will be a true auto, or an "automatically shifting" manual (Think Can-Am Spyder). Elio has stated that the plan is to have the manual transmission as standard equipment, and the automatic an option. They have also said they are trying to keep the option pricing for the automatic as low as possible.


Talked to VP sales today. The automatic will definitely not be a true automatic with torque converter etc. Way too much weight and cost. They still would like to see the auto shifter as a $0 option. Remains to be seen. For sure, younger drivers "expect" a car to be automatic. Many have never driven anything else. Less than 20% of current models even offer sticks. So the point is even in "cheap" cars, most buyers don't expect to pay extra to lose the clutch.


I like the IDEA of "Paddle Shifters" on the Steering Wheel.... would get away from the need for a floor mounted shifter.... if it could be done CHEAPLY. :roll:
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Re: Transmission

Postby karl » Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:14 am

Adding an automatic to the base model in lots of cars adds about 1-1.5K and I would pay that if my non motorcycle endorsement wife could drive the vehicle here in Massachusetts. Something like this http://drivelinenews.com/news/getrag-announces-new-dual-clutch-generation-as-6dct250-becomes-its-first-million-selling-dct/ Would be nice.
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Re: Transmission

Postby izoomin » Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:35 am

The Elio engine maker IAV also makes transmissions...
I did a simple google search "IAV CVT" and after a page translation came up with this:

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... annel%3Dsb


Basically it's saying IAV is an innovator in the development of the CVT Transmissions, CVT's are smaller and lighter and a good fit for an Elio.
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Re: Transmission

Postby Woodygray » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:31 pm

I thought that it was already established that Elio would use an Aisin transmission. I remember that someone even posted the exact model on some forum. Elio is extremely bad at updating anything other than the tour schedule and how many reservations they've gathered this week, I would not be surprised if they've just failed to get around to updating the supplier list. After all, we're less than a year from production. They've got to sign contracts, distribute manufacturing drawings, work out supply, delivery and payment schedules and work out space and manpower demands. You can't do all that in six months.

I would be surprised if anyone could come up with a vehicle that currently uses an IAV designed transmission. You can Google Getrag, ZF, Aisin or Borg-Warner and come up with many cites but I have found no incidences of IAV engines or transmissions in production. Lots of consulting and assists, but nothing that they have designed or manufactured. One would think that they would be eager to show off their latest development but those engine parts have sat on the shelf since they were cast five months ago. If it weren't for the fact that they were shown in public during the Woodward Dream Cruise (at what appeared to be a private IAV affair) I would suspect that they were plastic replicas of the proposed design. But if they were fake, it would have leaked to the press by now.
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Re: Transmission

Postby tenbsmith » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:26 am

Yeah, there is a thread on this site about Aisin being the tranny manufacturer and would provide a manual and automatic but NOT a CVT. I seem to recall that being a fairly well established fact.
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